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Post by Misfit Reindeer on Apr 11, 2015 15:09:38 GMT
A lot of you are writers or readers.
What's your opinion on banned books?
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Post by Death by Reindeer on Apr 11, 2015 16:40:55 GMT
idk much about it but unless it's books about how to kill people it's probably bull crap
You know about the "lgbt propaganda" filters on cartoons in like Russia and stuff right?
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Post by glambertfelix on Apr 11, 2015 17:08:38 GMT
I don't think books should ever be banned. I don't think media should ever be restricted like that.
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Post by mysticalgiraffe on Apr 12, 2015 0:54:10 GMT
i'm in the boat that there's a time and place for everything.
should we promote the likes of hitler by allowing every little neo-nazi to pick up his book at your local book store? i don't think so. i think that's disrespectful, and in poor taste.
but we shouldn't hide it away. we should have a collective where it's kept, where people can read it and study it, and know it exists. because i think it's too easily abused to start controlling books and the freedom to read them.
does that make sense?
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Post by glambertfelix on Apr 12, 2015 1:37:42 GMT
I think that keeping certain books banned or made difficult to access is in a way imposing on the right of free speech.
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Post by mysticalgiraffe on Apr 12, 2015 2:50:17 GMT
except that in a perfect world, nobody would buy those sorts of books. if nobody bought them, how could you turn a profit having them on your shelves? ((why would you want to make a profit off of them in the first place?)) they need a home, since we aren't burning them, and i don't see why a dark corner in a library of misfit books isn't an ideal solution.
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Post by glambertfelix on Apr 12, 2015 2:57:15 GMT
so...what exactly is your standpoint? cx I'm not sure. You don't want to ban them....but you want to group all the books that are 'wrong' together?
If that's what you mean, who's to decide what's wrong and should be hidden?
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Post by Death by Reindeer on Apr 12, 2015 3:04:14 GMT
Maybe there should be a separate genre for the misfit books. Personally I think that libraries and bookstores shouldn't carry them but idk it should be available. I'm not sure if anyone would be super thrilled with having a creepy corner filled with nazi and cult books. Kinda sounds like something out of a horror movie.
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Post by mysticalgiraffe on Apr 12, 2015 3:11:10 GMT
correct. i don't believe in destroying the books, since that is erasure, however, books should be restricted according to their power to cause harm. or as the exceptions to the uk freedom of speech list: "threatening, abusive or intended to cause harassment, alarm or distress or cause a breach of the peace, grossly offensive with an intent to cause distress or anxiety, incitement to racial or religious hatred, incitement to terrorism including encouragement of terrorism, glorifying terrorism, indecency including corruption of public morals and outraging public decency, defamation, and [paraphrasing here] anything legally bound to privacy."
as for who would decide, it's a democratic procedure, much like everything else.
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Post by glambertfelix on Apr 12, 2015 3:13:35 GMT
I still don't honestly know if I agree. I don't agree with the morals in those books, but I still feel as though it's a restriction of freedom, and making it harder for the human race to rely on themselves, rather than having the government tell them what's safe and right and proper.
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Post by mysticalgiraffe on Apr 12, 2015 3:18:21 GMT
I still don't honestly know if I agree. I don't agree with the morals in those books, but I still feel as though it's a restriction of freedom, and making it harder for the human race to rely on themselves, rather than having the government tell them what's safe and right and proper. well, since most places have laws in place to restrict discrimination against certain people ("protected groups") due to the fact that people would only behave decently when it became a legal issue, i think that we've proven we are incapable of relying on ourselves. |
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Post by mysticalgiraffe on Apr 12, 2015 3:19:57 GMT
Maybe there should be a separate genre for the misfit books. Personally I think that libraries and bookstores shouldn't carry them but idk it should be available. I'm not sure if anyone would be super thrilled with having a creepy corner filled with nazi and cult books. Kinda sounds like something out of a horror movie. i didn't mean a literal corner.  that would be creepy. but yes, like a wing in a large library, or a historical collective. |
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Post by glambertfelix on Apr 12, 2015 3:21:06 GMT
I'm not exactly sure that proves anything--and if it did, I wouldn't say the solution is to give over all control to the government in what we can and cannot do or read or consume or parent or teach or anything. Self reliance is a skill that seems almost to be disappearing, or at least it seems as though it's being taken away more and more by laws lately.
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Post by Death by Reindeer on Apr 12, 2015 3:27:48 GMT
Even if they weren't banned they are obviously banned for a reason, which means people probably won't want to buy and read them. If people don't want them they are never going to be available. So the ban should probably just be removed, it wouldn't affect anything.
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Post by Michael on Apr 22, 2015 5:32:56 GMT
Actually most "banned books" were books that promoted radical free thinking. And not in a bad way. Books that called the reader to second guess the government and to look at the consequences of war and of our actions as people were generally on the banned books list. Books like George Orwell 's Animal Farm and Kurt Vonnegut's Slaughterhouse Five. I'm of the opinion that books in and of themselves should be of free access to all people. Banning anything of the sort leaves a door open to far worse over reaches of power. Not to mention the spread of knowledge is never bad. Even Hitler's manuscripts have an educational value in context. But something interesting to look at if you guys are interested is this: www.lettersofnote.com/2012/03/i-am-very-real.html?m=1It's a letter Kurt Vonnegut wrote regarding the banning of his book. |
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that would be creepy. but yes, like a wing in a large library, or a historical collective.